OffSet™ Fitness & Therapeutic benefits
We could not explain it any better than these OffSet™ customers.
October 18, 2020
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My name's Robin J, I’m from the UK and I'm lucky to be friends with Haken's drummer Ray Hearne. I also play in the progressive/alternative rock band Kyros and we recently did an online cover of ‘The Good Doctor’ by Haken where I got to play double drums with Ray himself. |
July 26, 2020
Wow! Thanks for the quick response. I just thought I’d mention how much I like the Offset pedal. We know the ergos are great but I was amazed at how well they play. I currently own or have owned in the past several double pedals including DW9000, Pearl Eliminator, Axis A2 Longboard, and Pearl Demon Drive. Although they are all great pedals I do prefer the feel and playability of the Offset pedal. Which did surprise me. I thought that I would have to sacrifice some playability for good ergos, but that definitely is not the case.
Thanks again, Tom M
Posted by RYAN RUSSELL on March 13, 2019
You don’t have this pedal yet !
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Can’t believe I’ve been playing without this pedal . Nothing compares to it . Discover a new freedom setting up any style of drum kit without sacrificing comfort!. This pedal is extremely solid , adjusting to any technique you you can throw at it . I can tell you I’d never even tried this pedal till I received it , I set it up and I never left my drum stool.
Posted by WILL B TARTER on Jan 31st 2019
THIS HAS TO BE ONE OF THE GREATEST DRUM SET INNOVATIONS OF THE LAST 40 YEARS. MECHANICALLY VERY SOUND. ALLOWS YOU TO BE CENTERED AND NOT RESTRICTED TO BEING A RIGHTY OR LEFTY WHEN LEARNING TO PLAY YOUR KIT!! FOR ME THE CONVERSION FROM CHAIN TO DIRECT FEELS LIKE I'M PLAYING TWO SPEED KINGS. LOVE IT!!!
Great idea and concept, very well executed!
December 20, 2018
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I’ve come across the concept of these unique pedals some time ago after seeing a FB-post by a friend sharing a link to the OffSet pedal. This triggered my interest. I had seen similar concepts of other brands in the past and over the years but somehow the idea of playing a middle pedal didn’t really appeal to me back then as an option.
Lately, I’ve been looking into various alternative ways of setting up drumsets in order to find some inspiration for optimizing the setup of the drums , especially in regards to a more ergonomic playing.
Being a drummer who also sings (and who doesn’t like headmics too much, by the way) I’ve lways been finding it hard to basically being stuck to having to lean towards the left side with your body while having to be totally flexible and to reach down to the lowest 18” floortom on the very right side at the same time. It is difficult when your mouth needs to be in position 10 o’clock while your arms need to be at 5 o’clock :-). I was thinking about either stop singing OR adding another arm to my body (an idea which I abandoned eventually after evaluating the possibilities and cost :-)
Joke aside - I thought that this pedal could really make my drumming/singing life easier by building up a centered drumset setup with the bassdrum and snare basically right in front of you and your body now facing 12 o’clock (which is usually the case when you play two bassdrums)
Unfortunately, there is no German or European distribution for this pedal yet so I’ve been spinning the idea of getting one of these in my head for quite some before I finally decided to go for it and taking advantage of the Amazon offer.
The shipping time of 6 days was unexpectedly fast considering USA to Europe - a nice surprise.
The pedal(s) come in a more or less standard carton but safely packed. Taking the pedals out of the box, seeing and feeling the material and understanding the construction and concept you can immediately tell that it is not a cheap, “me-too” sort of product just riding on an alternative idea only build as a “gimmick”. OffSet really took things serious here and the final product is obviously made from a drummer’s perspective in regards to build-quality and functionality.
Although it has many adjustable parts everywhere which makes it really easy to be fine-tuned and to adjust everything to your specific needs and preferences, I found the pedals relatively easy to setup (if you’re already used to normal double pedals).
The re-arranging of the drumset and its individual drums to be in-sync with the now centered set-up, however, takes a little more time. Also, getting used to it in your playing needs some time and practice, but it wasn’t too much of a deal for me after all.
What I also enjoy very much is the “new equality” of how I’m playing the bassdrum with this pedal: with a normal doube pedal it is more or less natural that your right foot has a stronger and louder sounding punch in comparison to the left (slave side) foot. What we drummers learn to do when playing doublebass on a single bassdrum, is to level out the sound and attack differences somehow. With the OffSet, the fact that both pedals are practically slave pedals, so to speak, makes for a different feel and leads to much more consistent, equal sounding left and right foot beats. You may argue that this is due to the fact, that your right-foot pedal no lacks the direct, immediate power transmission - and , yes, this is also true, I guess. However, I found it easy to get used to it in real life playing and rather embrace the benefit of having a more leveled-sounding double bassdrum sound.
All in all, I can highly recommend this product and it’s quality. It is surely not for everybody and I would always recommend to test and check it out if you have access to the product in a store. If you approach the concept with an open mind and if you are on the lookout for a new (more ergonomic) approach to your singe-but-doublebass-drumming this machine might be your perfect new friend :-)
Lately, I’ve been looking into various alternative ways of setting up drumsets in order to find some inspiration for optimizing the setup of the drums , especially in regards to a more ergonomic playing.
Being a drummer who also sings (and who doesn’t like headmics too much, by the way) I’ve lways been finding it hard to basically being stuck to having to lean towards the left side with your body while having to be totally flexible and to reach down to the lowest 18” floortom on the very right side at the same time. It is difficult when your mouth needs to be in position 10 o’clock while your arms need to be at 5 o’clock :-). I was thinking about either stop singing OR adding another arm to my body (an idea which I abandoned eventually after evaluating the possibilities and cost :-)
Joke aside - I thought that this pedal could really make my drumming/singing life easier by building up a centered drumset setup with the bassdrum and snare basically right in front of you and your body now facing 12 o’clock (which is usually the case when you play two bassdrums)
Unfortunately, there is no German or European distribution for this pedal yet so I’ve been spinning the idea of getting one of these in my head for quite some before I finally decided to go for it and taking advantage of the Amazon offer.
The shipping time of 6 days was unexpectedly fast considering USA to Europe - a nice surprise.
The pedal(s) come in a more or less standard carton but safely packed. Taking the pedals out of the box, seeing and feeling the material and understanding the construction and concept you can immediately tell that it is not a cheap, “me-too” sort of product just riding on an alternative idea only build as a “gimmick”. OffSet really took things serious here and the final product is obviously made from a drummer’s perspective in regards to build-quality and functionality.
Although it has many adjustable parts everywhere which makes it really easy to be fine-tuned and to adjust everything to your specific needs and preferences, I found the pedals relatively easy to setup (if you’re already used to normal double pedals).
The re-arranging of the drumset and its individual drums to be in-sync with the now centered set-up, however, takes a little more time. Also, getting used to it in your playing needs some time and practice, but it wasn’t too much of a deal for me after all.
What I also enjoy very much is the “new equality” of how I’m playing the bassdrum with this pedal: with a normal doube pedal it is more or less natural that your right foot has a stronger and louder sounding punch in comparison to the left (slave side) foot. What we drummers learn to do when playing doublebass on a single bassdrum, is to level out the sound and attack differences somehow. With the OffSet, the fact that both pedals are practically slave pedals, so to speak, makes for a different feel and leads to much more consistent, equal sounding left and right foot beats. You may argue that this is due to the fact, that your right-foot pedal no lacks the direct, immediate power transmission - and , yes, this is also true, I guess. However, I found it easy to get used to it in real life playing and rather embrace the benefit of having a more leveled-sounding double bassdrum sound.
All in all, I can highly recommend this product and it’s quality. It is surely not for everybody and I would always recommend to test and check it out if you have access to the product in a store. If you approach the concept with an open mind and if you are on the lookout for a new (more ergonomic) approach to your singe-but-doublebass-drumming this machine might be your perfect new friend :-)
hotchops1957
I got rid of my Iron Cobra, Gibraltar G Series, Demon Drive & DW pedals because of this! It is lightning fast, comfortable and ergonomic! The quality is there as well. It doesn't seem as substantial as the others as for its size it is pretty light. I just love this pedal! I have played Pearl pedals for over 40 years. I switched from Pearl to Tama and then Gibraltar G Series, then DW and lastly to Evolution Offset pedals! I've had them for months and they seem to get better the more I use them!
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Shawn Collins
Pedals feel greatAugust 20, 2018
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A number of years ago a chiropractor informed me my hips were out of alignment, which throws my spine out of alignment and was causing me back pain. I couldn't figure out why my hips were out like that. It even created a length difference in my legs. Years later, after reading an article in Modern Drummer, it dawned on me the hip problem was probably caused by 25 plus years of playing double bass in the traditional set up; either with a second bass off to my left, or using a typical dble. pedal. I've owned a few of them, all good for what they are and do, but I have consistently felt discomfort in my back, right knee and even right ankle after playing long amounts of time. Upon reading about the Off-Set pedal on a discussion board I looked it up and purchased one. Man, what a great pedal. It's built like a tank, is very quiet, smooth and solid feeling, has all these great adjustment features, and in less than 15 minutes I had it set up and flying. Just a great device.
The feeling of natural balance while playing makes things like coordination and speed all the more effortless to achieve, and there is no displacement of twisting my hips to play the traditional pedal set up, and no discomfort in my back, knee or ankle. This device seems ideal to start younger players on before any body problems develop.
I hope you sell a million of them.
Thanks so much,
Ray Frigon
April 15, 2006
Dear Charles Fisher,
My name is Eric Andre’ Majied. I’ve been a music educator for 20 years and a student of drumming since age 2. I’ve most recently purchased your product; The “Off-Set” Drum Pedal.
Please know that I’ve been searching for this idea and or ideal product for at least 18 years.
While I’m currently the Director of Bands at Central High School here in Flint, Michigan, I also teach privately at Bill Schaffer’s Drum Shop.
I’m really excited about the response I’ve observed from adults and students who’ve tried the Off-Set Pedal. This pedal system is truly a revolution in drumming comfort. Any of my students or Drum Shop visitors who sit and try the pedal immediately acquire a perfect feeling of body balance, stroke control and stroke attack. The most impressive aspect of the Off-Set in my opinion is the strength of its construction.
The Off-Set Pedal is the OPTIMUM DESIGN for Bass Double Pedaling!!!
Sincerely your, Eric A, Majied
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 12:29 PM To: Charles Fisher
Hi Charles,
I don't even know if this email is still current but as I've just stumbled across our correspondence in my archive and thought I would fire you off a quick email.
It is hard to believe that it is more than six years since I purchased an Off Set pedal from you.
Over the years I have accumulated many pedals to try out. Included amongst what was a shamefully large collection was the Sleishman and a Malleus Middle Pedal.
For a long time I didn't use the Off Set as I just had so many different pedals to choose from, I rarely took the time to fine tune feel and function. In addition to my three middle pedals I also had a DW9000 which I tended to use the most. I still have it and it is a great pedal.
However, after deciding a year or so ago to have a purge, I sold many of the pedals I owned. I never considered getting rid of the Off Set though. Consequently with a much smaller collection of pedals to choose from, I dug out the Off Set once more and this time round really knuckled down to fine tune the action of the pedal to suit me. Now I don't think I could use anything else.
In terms of build quality and the sheer breadth of adjustment that is possible, it really is an astonishing achievement for the money. I use the pedal every single day and it remains absolutely faultless.
So, I just wanted to say thank you and I hope you continue to market and sell this wonderful and innovative product for many years to come. In time I will return to you for another.
I play with my hi hat directly in front of me using a Trick Predator remote hat with a short three foot cable. It isn't bad but my first choice for the job was another beautifully innovative product called the Legacy Percussion Remote Speedy Hat, (but sadly no longer for sale). I have yet to be able to find a used one for sale but I still live in hope. Should you ever decide to make something similar, please count me in :)
All the best Charles, and once again thank you.Carlos MWest Sussex, UK
August 27, 2009
Off-Set Company
Charles Fisher
Good morning;
I purchased your Double Bass Drum Pedal system about a year ago. I have to tell you, it is the best decision I made that year. I was astounded at how easily I was able to take double bassing to a whole new level. Amazing how ergonomics can improve playing, polymorphic in particular.
Thanks,
Rick Frenzel
May 1, 2008
Dear Mr. Fisher,
A number of years ago a chiropractor informed me my hips were out of alignment, which throws my spine out of alignment and was causing me back pain. I couldn't figure out why my hips were out like that. It even created a length difference in my legs. Years later, after reading an article in Modern Drummer, it dawned on me the hip problem was probably caused by 25 plus years of playing double bass in the traditional set up; either with a second bass off to my left, or using a typical dble. pedal. I've owned a few of them, all good for what they are and do, but I have consistently felt discomfort in my back, right knee and even right ankle after playing long amounts of time. Upon reading about the Off-Set pedal on a discussion board I looked it up and purchased one. Man, what a great pedal. It's built like a tank, is very quiet, smooth and solid feeling, has all these great adjustment features, and in less than 15 minutes I had it set up and flying. Just a great device.
The feeling of natural balance while playing makes things like coordination and speed all the more effortless to achieve, and there is no displacement of twisting my hips to play the traditional pedal set up, and no discomfort in my back, knee or ankle. This device seems ideal to start younger players on before any body problems develop.
I hope you sell a million of them.
Thanks so much,
Ray Frigon
April 15, 2006
Dear Charles Fisher,
My name is Eric Andre’ Majied. I’ve been a music educator for 20 years and a student of drumming since age 2. I’ve most recently purchased your product; The “Off-Set” Drum Pedal.
Please know that I’ve been searching for this idea and or ideal product for at least 18 years.
While I’m currently the Director of Bands at Central High School here in Flint, Michigan, I also teach privately at Bill Schaffer’s Drum Shop.
I’m really excited about the response I’ve observed from adults and students who’ve tried the Off-Set Pedal. This pedal system is truly a revolution in drumming comfort. Any of my students or Drum Shop visitors who sit and try the pedal immediately acquire a perfect feeling of body balance, stroke control and stroke attack. The most impressive aspect of the Off-Set in my opinion is the strength of its construction.
The Off-Set Pedal is the OPTIMUM DESIGN for Bass Double Pedaling!!!
Sincerely your,
Eric A, Majied
8-7-06
Dear Mr. Fisher,
I am writing in regard to the Off-Set double bass pedal.
I purchased one from Drum World in PA, April 4th. I have been playing with it for three months . My reaction to the Off-Set was one of excitement and anticipation, as this design is perfect for my set up. Which was featured in March 2005 issue of Modern Drummer’s Drum-Kit of the Month.
Thank you for your time.
Michael Barton
SwingSong LLC
12-5-05
Dear Charles,
I must say your offset double is working out find. I’m trying to work out with it twice a week and I’m truly getting use to it. Yes, I would like to endorser this product. Thank you so much for your help and effort in making this work for me. I’ll be in touch.
Don’t be afraid to slam it!
Skip Reeves
Worlds Tallest Drummer